there is a wonderful book, i forget the author, about barbara mcclintock, i believe that was her name who was a nobel prize-winning biologist and the book is called a sense for the organism. she worked on corn and in this kind of womanly way, she would watch the little corn plantsy growing. and made great biology out of o that. and i could give you example of female historians who see into human lives and what we can say, and a less mechanical earth theoretical way than men do. there is a very good play about rosen franklin, the co- discover of dna who died of cancer before she could get the nobel prize. and there is a a debate between her and james watson, on the role of theory versus observation. and it's notorious in many fields that women want to look atom things and men want to talk aboutta them. >> host: before we go any further, we want to make sure to show the cover of the book you reference a little while ago. forever flowing. and that's the one you are currently reading. >> caller: it's a very good novel, read it. and then come back and tell me that you think socialism is a